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]]> By: Martin Kliehm http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Martin Kliehm Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:14:47 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/#comment-118 Jack, no offense taken. I'm looking forward for the promised D&D game, though I think we should select a game where it is allowed to have <em>trolls</em> as player characters. ;-) Is there any other rule system apart from Swordbearer where you can have that? Maybe Warhammer FRP? Jack, no offense taken. I’m looking forward for the promised D&D game, though I think we should select a game where it is allowed to have trolls as player characters. ;-) Is there any other rule system apart from Swordbearer where you can have that? Maybe Warhammer FRP?

]]> By: JackP http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/comment-page-1/#comment-110 JackP Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:45:34 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/#comment-110 Martin, thanks for your comment. I think I've now got a better understanding of whaqt you were meaning - which was it's your opinion, based on the various references you provide, that Joe Clark's personality wasn't helping the cause. However, this came across to me as though it was an attack on Joe the man, and saying that his arguments should carry less weight because of this personality - which would obviously be a logical fallacy. I don't neccessarily share your opinion, but I do understand it better now. Incidentally, I tried to post to your site on Sep 1st but I thought it had got lost in your moderation queue otherwise I wouldn't have written my post [NB on checking now it's obviously been found and released]. I deliberately didn't replicate your sources because I would expect my readers to read your article themselves, and check the sources out for themselves. I'm a firm believer in not just taking anyone's word for it. Incidentally, I hope I didn't offend you (or at least too much) because it's important to remember that we're all really on the same side here, despite our disagreements and I'd always rather make new friends than new enemies. Alll the best! Jack Martin,
thanks for your comment. I think I’ve now got a better understanding of whaqt you were meaning – which was it’s your opinion, based on the various references you provide, that Joe Clark’s personality wasn’t helping the cause. However, this came across to me as though it was an attack on Joe the man, and saying that his arguments should carry less weight because of this personality – which would obviously be a logical fallacy. I don’t neccessarily share your opinion, but I do understand it better now.

Incidentally, I tried to post to your site on Sep 1st but I thought it had got lost in your moderation queue otherwise I wouldn’t have written my post [NB on checking now it's obviously been found and released]. I deliberately didn’t replicate your sources because I would expect my readers to read your article themselves, and check the sources out for themselves. I’m a firm believer in not just taking anyone’s word for it.

Incidentally, I hope I didn’t offend you (or at least too much) because it’s important to remember that we’re all really on the same side here, despite our disagreements and I’d always rather make new friends than new enemies.
Alll the best!
Jack

]]> By: Martin Kliehm http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Martin Kliehm Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:04:11 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/#comment-107 Joe Clark’s personal behavior would have been irrelevant, but the <em>tone</em> within the working group is part of the critique. He was an invited expert and thus part of the working group, and his tone on the mailing list didn’t improve the manners for sure. That’s why I had to address it with links to relevant sections of the mailing list archives for citation, so you can build your own opinion. Alas the sources were not recognizable here since none of the links were included. Joe Clark’s personal behavior would have been irrelevant, but the tone within the working group is part of the critique. He was an invited expert and thus part of the working group, and his tone on the mailing list didn’t improve the manners for sure. That’s why I had to address it with links to relevant sections of the mailing list archives for citation, so you can build your own opinion. Alas the sources were not recognizable here since none of the links were included.

]]> By: Mike Cherim http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Mike Cherim Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:37:22 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200609/to-hell-with-people-saying-to-hell-with-joe-clark/#comment-102 I agree. Joe expressed dissatisfaction with a proposed specification, and he's mostly right on with his views in my opinion. But the guy that wrote that post turned it into something personal. If his views differed (which they did but not by much), he should have focused his post on those views instead of disrespecting a man who succeeded at enlightening many of us who didn't actually read the whole thing. I know I didn't. To me it was like a multi-page contract with lots of legalese and fine print. I'd hire a lawyer to read it for me and put into a summary form. As Joe kindly did. And he didn't even ask me for a retainer (thanks Joe). I agree. Joe expressed dissatisfaction with a proposed specification, and he’s mostly right on with his views in my opinion. But the guy that wrote that post turned it into something personal. If his views differed (which they did but not by much), he should have focused his post on those views instead of disrespecting a man who succeeded at enlightening many of us who didn’t actually read the whole thing. I know I didn’t. To me it was like a multi-page contract with lots of legalese and fine print. I’d hire a lawyer to read it for me and put into a summary form. As Joe kindly did. And he didn’t even ask me for a retainer (thanks Joe).

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