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	<description>ranting and rambling to anyone willing to listen</description>
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		<title>By: Rena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ppl like you get all the birnas. I just get to say thanks for he answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ppl like you get all the birnas. I just get to say thanks for he answer.</p>
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		<title>By: paul canning</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul canning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you picked up on, Jack, people need to remember we&#039;ve been here before - the 1930s when jews were sent back to Germany. And that&#039;s not a hysterical analogy. 

I&#039;m updating news about Mehdi here http://paulcanning.blogspot.com/2008/02/update-iranian-gay-deportee-mehdi.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you picked up on, Jack, people need to remember we&#8217;ve been here before &#8211; the 1930s when jews were sent back to Germany. And that&#8217;s not a hysterical analogy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m updating news about Mehdi here <a href="http://paulcanning.blogspot.com/2008/02/update-iranian-gay-deportee-mehdi.html" rel="nofollow">http://paulcanning.blogspot.com/2008/02/update-iranian-gay-deportee-mehdi.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JackP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you&#039;re saying - I &lt;em&gt;disagree&lt;/em&gt;, but I understand. I guess it boils down to how far you&#039;re prepared to go as regards extradition treaties, doesn&#039;t it?

In your hypothetical home-defense case, I&#039;d argue you should face extradition. In Medhi&#039;s case, I&#039;d argue not.

Is that double-standards? Again, I think not. I think Wikipedia&#039;s article on extradition sums up how I believe quite nicely:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most countries require themselves to deny extradition requests if, in the government&#039;s opinion, the suspect is sought for a political crime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many countries, such as Mexico, Canada and most European nations, will not allow extradition if the death penalty may be imposed on the suspect unless they are assured that the death sentence will not subsequently be passed or carried out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;...parties to the European Convention cannot extradite persons where they would be at significant risk of being tortured or inhumanely or degradingly treated or punished.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition#restrictions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia article on Extradition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In this case, I think you&#039;ve got both the death penalty, and the inhuman/degrading treatment clauses which suggest he should not be extradited (at least in my opinion). Fortunately, the Dutch seem to agree, as they don&#039;t seem prepared to hand him over to us, judging that we&#039;ll hand him over to Iran...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; I <em>disagree</em>, but I understand. I guess it boils down to how far you&#8217;re prepared to go as regards extradition treaties, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>In your hypothetical home-defense case, I&#8217;d argue you should face extradition. In Medhi&#8217;s case, I&#8217;d argue not.</p>
<p>Is that double-standards? Again, I think not. I think Wikipedia&#8217;s article on extradition sums up how I believe quite nicely:</p>
<blockquote><p>Most countries require themselves to deny extradition requests if, in the government&#8217;s opinion, the suspect is sought for a political crime.</p>
<p>Many countries, such as Mexico, Canada and most European nations, will not allow extradition if the death penalty may be imposed on the suspect unless they are assured that the death sentence will not subsequently be passed or carried out.</p>
<p>&#8230;parties to the European Convention cannot extradite persons where they would be at significant risk of being tortured or inhumanely or degradingly treated or punished.</p>
<p><cite><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition#restrictions" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article on Extradition</a></cite></p></blockquote>
<p>In this case, I think you&#8217;ve got both the death penalty, and the inhuman/degrading treatment clauses which suggest he should not be extradited (at least in my opinion). Fortunately, the Dutch seem to agree, as they don&#8217;t seem prepared to hand him over to us, judging that we&#8217;ll hand him over to Iran&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Collegue Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collegue Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Jack, but when is one country better than another, the problem is who are we to really say that we are right and you are wrong. As abhorant at the result may be if you break the law in country x - you face justice in country x. For instance certain rights to protect my property are stonger in the US than they are the UK, so someone breaks into my house I shoot them dead and flee to Texas should I face extradition to the UK because I commited muder in the UK, even though my actions are defensible under law where I now reside.

I do not think homosexuality is a crime, however other countries do, and therefore what right do we have to stop other countries from persuing their own justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Jack, but when is one country better than another, the problem is who are we to really say that we are right and you are wrong. As abhorant at the result may be if you break the law in country x &#8211; you face justice in country x. For instance certain rights to protect my property are stonger in the US than they are the UK, so someone breaks into my house I shoot them dead and flee to Texas should I face extradition to the UK because I commited muder in the UK, even though my actions are defensible under law where I now reside.</p>
<p>I do not think homosexuality is a crime, however other countries do, and therefore what right do we have to stop other countries from persuing their own justice.</p>
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		<title>By: paul canning</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul canning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cheers Jack, the more know what&#039;s happening the better and maybe Smith and her cronies might actually do something. 

I don&#039;t expect this to be the lead in the Daily Mail anyday soon and the anti-immigrant mob (right word) is the real reason Smith and those before her couldn&#039;t be bovvered. 

Shame is definitely the right emotion although - obviously - Brits, including British gays, haven&#039;t yelled hard enough because they keep doing it. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m being too strong in saying she&#039;s &#039;complicit in murder&#039;. This stuff really hits me personally because I can put myself in the shoes of the poor sods she&#039;s sending back (in our name).

re: &#039;as Paul Canningâ€™s blogging again, I get to find out some of the unpleasant aspects of our world&#039; - I do have cute monkey pix too! ;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheers Jack, the more know what&#8217;s happening the better and maybe Smith and her cronies might actually do something. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect this to be the lead in the Daily Mail anyday soon and the anti-immigrant mob (right word) is the real reason Smith and those before her couldn&#8217;t be bovvered. </p>
<p>Shame is definitely the right emotion although &#8211; obviously &#8211; Brits, including British gays, haven&#8217;t yelled hard enough because they keep doing it. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m being too strong in saying she&#8217;s &#8216;complicit in murder&#8217;. This stuff really hits me personally because I can put myself in the shoes of the poor sods she&#8217;s sending back (in our name).</p>
<p>re: &#8216;as Paul Canningâ€™s blogging again, I get to find out some of the unpleasant aspects of our world&#8217; &#8211; I do have cute monkey pix too! ;]</p>
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