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	<title>Comments on: Tolerance Is Anathema To Dawkins</title>
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		<title>By: Care</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200810/tolerance-is-anathema-to-dawkins/comment-page-1/#comment-41671</link>
		<dc:creator>Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose a bendy-bus slogan of &quot;There IS a God, so don&#039;t worry, enjoy life.&quot;   would also be nice.   Just another flavor of what KIND of &#039;god&#039; is your God, if you choose one:  a happy take-care-of-your-needs kind or the judgemental fire&amp;brimstone kind...      

What the heck in a bendy-bus?    Nevermind, I&#039;ll go google and see what pops up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose a bendy-bus slogan of &#8220;There IS a God, so don&#8217;t worry, enjoy life.&#8221;   would also be nice.   Just another flavor of what KIND of &#8216;god&#8217; is your God, if you choose one:  a happy take-care-of-your-needs kind or the judgemental fire&amp;brimstone kind&#8230;      </p>
<p>What the heck in a bendy-bus?    Nevermind, I&#8217;ll go google and see what pops up.</p>
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		<title>By: JackP</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200810/tolerance-is-anathema-to-dawkins/comment-page-1/#comment-41579</link>
		<dc:creator>JackP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...for example, there&#039;s things like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-goldilocks-enigma-by-paul-davies-423076.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the goldilocks enigma&lt;/a&gt;, which is a book by the scientist Paul Davies which considers the question of &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; the universe is fit for life (as there are about a dozen constants -- which theoretically could have had any value -- and which if tweaked by 2% or so would have meant life (or at least sentient life) would never have arisen), and he considers possibilities like God, and multiverses, and other stuff like that.

It&#039;s a really interesting take on it, as he looks at a number of theories and presents his conclusions. 

Then you&#039;ve got Stephen Hawking&#039;s A Briefer History of Time, which always messes with my head. Note Brief&lt;em&gt;er&lt;/em&gt;; it&#039;s the newer one with less maths in. It&#039;s when you get stuff about time used to be part of space, until space was a particular size; the idea that you could travel in time by going &lt;em&gt;over there&lt;/em&gt; seems odd rather than an accepted scientific theory... 

There&#039;s also The Universe Next Door and The Never Ending Days Of Being Dead, if you want other scientific takes on &#039;why are we here&#039;, and &#039;what&#039;s it all about, &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt;, when you get down to it..?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;for example, there&#8217;s things like <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-goldilocks-enigma-by-paul-davies-423076.html" rel="nofollow">the goldilocks enigma</a>, which is a book by the scientist Paul Davies which considers the question of <em>why</em> the universe is fit for life (as there are about a dozen constants &#8212; which theoretically could have had any value &#8212; and which if tweaked by 2% or so would have meant life (or at least sentient life) would never have arisen), and he considers possibilities like God, and multiverses, and other stuff like that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really interesting take on it, as he looks at a number of theories and presents his conclusions. </p>
<p>Then you&#8217;ve got Stephen Hawking&#8217;s A Briefer History of Time, which always messes with my head. Note Brief<em>er</em>; it&#8217;s the newer one with less maths in. It&#8217;s when you get stuff about time used to be part of space, until space was a particular size; the idea that you could travel in time by going <em>over there</em> seems odd rather than an accepted scientific theory&#8230; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also The Universe Next Door and The Never Ending Days Of Being Dead, if you want other scientific takes on &#8216;why are we here&#8217;, and &#8216;what&#8217;s it all about, <em>really</em>, when you get down to it..?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: JackP</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200810/tolerance-is-anathema-to-dawkins/comment-page-1/#comment-41577</link>
		<dc:creator>JackP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...ah no, there&#039;s slightly more to it than that.

There&#039;s a bit of &quot;look at all the bad things done in the name of religion&quot;, and stuff like that. Dawkins also makes the case well (certainly in The Blind Watchmaker, can&#039;t remember offhand if it&#039;s in TGD) that you don&#039;t need to infer a God simply because you can&#039;t understand how something that complicated (such as the eye) could have arisen by chance. Dawkins calls it the &#039;argument from incredulity&#039; and demolishes it somewhat: just because you don&#039;t understand something, doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t so.

Sadly, he fails to apply the same rules to his own argument -- he finds it inconceivable that there could be a God, but fails to recognise that just because he can&#039;t understand how there could be one, that doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t...

And I have to say that I think if your viewpoint about the matter &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; as simplistic and cliched as you present, then maybe you should read more about it -- but not just from writers who would support your initial beliefs -- read something to try and challenge them also. Above all, make your own mind up, and don&#039;t let anyone else do it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;ah no, there&#8217;s slightly more to it than that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a bit of &#8220;look at all the bad things done in the name of religion&#8221;, and stuff like that. Dawkins also makes the case well (certainly in The Blind Watchmaker, can&#8217;t remember offhand if it&#8217;s in TGD) that you don&#8217;t need to infer a God simply because you can&#8217;t understand how something that complicated (such as the eye) could have arisen by chance. Dawkins calls it the &#8216;argument from incredulity&#8217; and demolishes it somewhat: just because you don&#8217;t understand something, doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t so.</p>
<p>Sadly, he fails to apply the same rules to his own argument &#8212; he finds it inconceivable that there could be a God, but fails to recognise that just because he can&#8217;t understand how there could be one, that doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>And I have to say that I think if your viewpoint about the matter <em>is</em> as simplistic and cliched as you present, then maybe you should read more about it &#8212; but not just from writers who would support your initial beliefs &#8212; read something to try and challenge them also. Above all, make your own mind up, and don&#8217;t let anyone else do it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: chartroose</title>
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		<dc:creator>chartroose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above was my comment AGAIN!  Talk about being a total imbecile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above was my comment AGAIN!  Talk about being a total imbecile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking of reading &quot;The God Delusion&quot; until someone told me the entire book can be summed up in one sentence: &quot;God does not exist, and those who beieve in him are total imbeciles.&quot;  I say that every day!  I don&#039;t need to read about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of reading &#8220;The God Delusion&#8221; until someone told me the entire book can be summed up in one sentence: &#8220;God does not exist, and those who beieve in him are total imbeciles.&#8221;  I say that every day!  I don&#8217;t need to read about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely loved this post, Jack! One thing you&#039;ve always impressed me with -- your ability to disagree &lt;em&gt;amicably&lt;/em&gt;. I wish more people on both sides had that ability, especially when preaching &lt;em&gt;tolerance&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely loved this post, Jack! One thing you&#8217;ve always impressed me with &#8212; your ability to disagree <em>amicably</em>. I wish more people on both sides had that ability, especially when preaching <em>tolerance</em> or <em>love</em>.</p>
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