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		<description>It is pretty deus ex machina, as they were focusing more on the emotional than technical elements. I found it unlikely that they would have the technology to transmit through children. It would have been good if they had put about 10 more minutes into resolving the story convincingly. 

The reason the doctor or sarah jane didn&#039;t help is that this is torchwood. It would have been ridiculous if they had turned up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty deus ex machina, as they were focusing more on the emotional than technical elements. I found it unlikely that they would have the technology to transmit through children. It would have been good if they had put about 10 more minutes into resolving the story convincingly. </p>
<p>The reason the doctor or sarah jane didn&#8217;t help is that this is torchwood. It would have been ridiculous if they had turned up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of plot-holes was atrocious. How many times are they going to be able to use the &quot;oh that character was conveniently indisposed at that point in time&quot;. The Doctor, the man who refuses to let even one person die without throwing his whole self into saving them and finding there is absolutely no chance to save them, letting 10% of the Earth&#039;s children be snorted by aliens??? I don&#039;t think so. &quot;Turning away in shame&quot;. FICKLE STUPID EXCUSE. These spin-off&#039;s just  CANNOT employ global crisis and pull it off without destroying continuity. What about Sarah Jane? She has a super computer, surely Jack could&#039;ve used THAT to focus is voice through? Martha Jones, oh, wait, don&#039;t disturb her... she&#039;s on her honeymoon. Right. Yeah. Okay. 
And since when is the only way to create a serious drama to kill of all of your characters?
I have little hope for series 4. Gwen has a new child, Jack acted like a total arse in CoE and everyone else is dead. I&#039;m really not interested in the Jack and Gwen show anyway. It just won&#039;t be Torchwood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of plot-holes was atrocious. How many times are they going to be able to use the &#8220;oh that character was conveniently indisposed at that point in time&#8221;. The Doctor, the man who refuses to let even one person die without throwing his whole self into saving them and finding there is absolutely no chance to save them, letting 10% of the Earth&#8217;s children be snorted by aliens??? I don&#8217;t think so. &#8220;Turning away in shame&#8221;. FICKLE STUPID EXCUSE. These spin-off&#8217;s just  CANNOT employ global crisis and pull it off without destroying continuity. What about Sarah Jane? She has a super computer, surely Jack could&#8217;ve used THAT to focus is voice through? Martha Jones, oh, wait, don&#8217;t disturb her&#8230; she&#8217;s on her honeymoon. Right. Yeah. Okay.<br />
And since when is the only way to create a serious drama to kill of all of your characters?<br />
I have little hope for series 4. Gwen has a new child, Jack acted like a total arse in CoE and everyone else is dead. I&#8217;m really not interested in the Jack and Gwen show anyway. It just won&#8217;t be Torchwood.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Mouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had some people at work talking very positively about the first three episodes, but only caught up with it at part 4 a few days back on a repeat. Actually thought that it wasn&#039;t too bad and was intrigued enough to want to see the final episode. 

I must admit that I am not a fan. I really wanted to be, but I find I hate (hate, hate, hate) all the over emotional interplay that pads out and detracts from the the action elements of the stories. Unfortunately, this extends into new Doctor Who as well. Most of the stories I have seen have less plot and meat on them than one of the old 25 minute stories (they were far from perfect either, but I loved them). I got very bored with everyone shagging each other in Torchwood, to the extent that I had no desire to watch such base, populist trash which so irritatingly padded out each episode so it ran twice as long as was required. The last straw was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (I should have guessed from the title!) where I tuned in to see what interesting role had been given to James Masters (of whom I am a bit of a fan), and found that instead he was another sad, trendy, psychotic ex chum of Cardiff&#039;s very own intergalactic star tart. Switched that one off after fifteen minutes and never looked back.

So I was actually a little bit delighted that episode 4 of children of earth actually entertained me, and nearly convinced me that RTD and Co. had maybe shaken of the juvenile sex pest obsessions, and excruciately emotional East Enders quality melodrama, and started to write some decent stuff for the Captain and his crew to get their teeth into. OK, there was some really weak reasoning for the sake of a crashing (but sadly very cheep) dramatic moment, like the above mentioned Ianto dashing in where angels would have feared to tread. Didn&#039;t the character deserve something more than such a cheep throwaway? Generally though, what I saw of it was a damn site better than my previous impression of the show, and I decided to check out episode 5.

Well, cut out the crap, and it could have been a really exciting ten minute episode, but in the end, it was an excruciating pile of canker that I found nearly impossible to watch. I found myself forward winding through much of the emotional scenes, though I enjoyed the lads from the estate turning on the army! 

Where was the action, where was the confrontation, where was the heroism? That is what I used to watch Doctor Who for, and if it isn&#039;t a part of Torchwood, then they shouldn&#039;t advertise it as such. If Jack isn&#039;t a hero, in that ridiculous coat, then what is he good for. Shagging and that&#039;s about it really.

Episode 5 was dreadful, and frankly I probably would have enjoyed it more if they had taken out the padding and soap opera and replaced it with a massed snog between Torchwood and special guest James Masters. And you&#039;re right; why doesn&#039;t Gwen get all nuddy - if RTD wants to introduce balance into the sexual ravings of the show, he should insist she get them out.

And no, RTD cannot write endings. I&#039;ll put money on it that there was at least one draft of the script that had someone point out that there are still a few people around that saw Quatermass in the 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had some people at work talking very positively about the first three episodes, but only caught up with it at part 4 a few days back on a repeat. Actually thought that it wasn&#8217;t too bad and was intrigued enough to want to see the final episode. </p>
<p>I must admit that I am not a fan. I really wanted to be, but I find I hate (hate, hate, hate) all the over emotional interplay that pads out and detracts from the the action elements of the stories. Unfortunately, this extends into new Doctor Who as well. Most of the stories I have seen have less plot and meat on them than one of the old 25 minute stories (they were far from perfect either, but I loved them). I got very bored with everyone shagging each other in Torchwood, to the extent that I had no desire to watch such base, populist trash which so irritatingly padded out each episode so it ran twice as long as was required. The last straw was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (I should have guessed from the title!) where I tuned in to see what interesting role had been given to James Masters (of whom I am a bit of a fan), and found that instead he was another sad, trendy, psychotic ex chum of Cardiff&#8217;s very own intergalactic star tart. Switched that one off after fifteen minutes and never looked back.</p>
<p>So I was actually a little bit delighted that episode 4 of children of earth actually entertained me, and nearly convinced me that RTD and Co. had maybe shaken of the juvenile sex pest obsessions, and excruciately emotional East Enders quality melodrama, and started to write some decent stuff for the Captain and his crew to get their teeth into. OK, there was some really weak reasoning for the sake of a crashing (but sadly very cheep) dramatic moment, like the above mentioned Ianto dashing in where angels would have feared to tread. Didn&#8217;t the character deserve something more than such a cheep throwaway? Generally though, what I saw of it was a damn site better than my previous impression of the show, and I decided to check out episode 5.</p>
<p>Well, cut out the crap, and it could have been a really exciting ten minute episode, but in the end, it was an excruciating pile of canker that I found nearly impossible to watch. I found myself forward winding through much of the emotional scenes, though I enjoyed the lads from the estate turning on the army! </p>
<p>Where was the action, where was the confrontation, where was the heroism? That is what I used to watch Doctor Who for, and if it isn&#8217;t a part of Torchwood, then they shouldn&#8217;t advertise it as such. If Jack isn&#8217;t a hero, in that ridiculous coat, then what is he good for. Shagging and that&#8217;s about it really.</p>
<p>Episode 5 was dreadful, and frankly I probably would have enjoyed it more if they had taken out the padding and soap opera and replaced it with a massed snog between Torchwood and special guest James Masters. And you&#8217;re right; why doesn&#8217;t Gwen get all nuddy &#8211; if RTD wants to introduce balance into the sexual ravings of the show, he should insist she get them out.</p>
<p>And no, RTD cannot write endings. I&#8217;ll put money on it that there was at least one draft of the script that had someone point out that there are still a few people around that saw Quatermass in the 70s.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of the above.  I hated the last two episodes and can&#039;t see myself watching the programme again - despite having been an ardent fan since Episode 1 of the first series.  I feel that there were a lot of storyline anomalies - like the woman who came up with the choice of which kids were to go, then trying to take over at the end.  The one bit I thought was good - was where Jack has (I think) tried to justify his actions in 1965 by saying that &#039;I was different then&#039; and then proving, when he sacrifices his grandson, that he is no different at all.  He is still the same emotionless alien that he always was.  

I hated the last two episodes though and they will stop me watching any putative Series 4. I hate the sort of mind that can come up with this storyline.  It was all far too close to home for me and made me very unhappy. Only a childless person could come up with this......RTD, step forward!  Overall, not impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of the above.  I hated the last two episodes and can&#8217;t see myself watching the programme again &#8211; despite having been an ardent fan since Episode 1 of the first series.  I feel that there were a lot of storyline anomalies &#8211; like the woman who came up with the choice of which kids were to go, then trying to take over at the end.  The one bit I thought was good &#8211; was where Jack has (I think) tried to justify his actions in 1965 by saying that &#8216;I was different then&#8217; and then proving, when he sacrifices his grandson, that he is no different at all.  He is still the same emotionless alien that he always was.  </p>
<p>I hated the last two episodes though and they will stop me watching any putative Series 4. I hate the sort of mind that can come up with this storyline.  It was all far too close to home for me and made me very unhappy. Only a childless person could come up with this&#8230;&#8230;RTD, step forward!  Overall, not impressed.</p>
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