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	<title>Comments on: Redbridge: i&#8217;s not all i&#8217;s cracked up to be?</title>
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	<description>ranting and rambling to anyone willing to listen</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-63371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t have thought they’d be many people returning to a council homepage with enough frequency to ‘personalise’ it.&quot;

I don&#039;t agree with that view because social networking sites are all about personalising, and choosing which bits you want to have on your own homepage. 

I regularly visit the Redbridge-i to see new jobs, and other things&#039;s that I&#039;m interested in. I want that there as soon as I log in, as with a couple of other modules. Also, I do want to drag modules around and rearrange from time to time.

I think it&#039;s all about having a choice and personalising is what I like.

Ultimately I suppose it&#039;s about getting a balance.

There&#039;s my two penneth worth!

Nice to see the Chief Exec commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t have thought they’d be many people returning to a council homepage with enough frequency to ‘personalise’ it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with that view because social networking sites are all about personalising, and choosing which bits you want to have on your own homepage. </p>
<p>I regularly visit the Redbridge-i to see new jobs, and other things&#8217;s that I&#8217;m interested in. I want that there as soon as I log in, as with a couple of other modules. Also, I do want to drag modules around and rearrange from time to time.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s all about having a choice and personalising is what I like.</p>
<p>Ultimately I suppose it&#8217;s about getting a balance.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s my two penneth worth!</p>
<p>Nice to see the Chief Exec commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Hampson</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-62029</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Hampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack

Just caught up with your blog. Thanks for the kicking, and the plug for your own services.  As you say, we think we are at the forefront of trying to work through the benefits of interactivity to citizens and the public sector.  We would want to be highly accessible too. I will tomorrow ask colleagues to look into the detail of your criticisms. 

Our visits have tripled, from an already high level, in the couple of years since we launched Redbridge i. That is not the only measure of success but it does feel to me like strong backing for our basic proposition: every large public agency should be experimenting with all these tools.  Some things we have tested have been shaky, annoying, fallen flat; most have had a terrific response.  Lots more to come.   


Roger

Chief Executive
London Borough of Redbridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>Just caught up with your blog. Thanks for the kicking, and the plug for your own services.  As you say, we think we are at the forefront of trying to work through the benefits of interactivity to citizens and the public sector.  We would want to be highly accessible too. I will tomorrow ask colleagues to look into the detail of your criticisms. </p>
<p>Our visits have tripled, from an already high level, in the couple of years since we launched Redbridge i. That is not the only measure of success but it does feel to me like strong backing for our basic proposition: every large public agency should be experimenting with all these tools.  Some things we have tested have been shaky, annoying, fallen flat; most have had a terrific response.  Lots more to come.   </p>
<p>Roger</p>
<p>Chief Executive<br />
London Borough of Redbridge</p>
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		<title>By: John Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-60210</link>
		<dc:creator>John Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I compltely aggree that accessibility should not be traded off, and indeed should not need to be traded off. 

The website front end though is the tip of the iceberg tho&#039; and do these facilities make access to services more efficient, or they actually create more work at the back end?  I don&#039;t know how far along other councils are in joining up website with back office systems, the priorities as we see it is ensureing that web transactions maximise efficiency, and once this is done work on personalisation / involvement facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I compltely aggree that accessibility should not be traded off, and indeed should not need to be traded off. </p>
<p>The website front end though is the tip of the iceberg tho&#8217; and do these facilities make access to services more efficient, or they actually create more work at the back end?  I don&#8217;t know how far along other councils are in joining up website with back office systems, the priorities as we see it is ensureing that web transactions maximise efficiency, and once this is done work on personalisation / involvement facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: JackP</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-59698</link>
		<dc:creator>JackP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John,
I don&#039;t think the involvement/personalisation should be seen as a &lt;em&gt;trade-off&lt;/em&gt; against accessibility. Whatever you think of the ability to customise (and I like it, particularly the postcode related stuff), this is a separate issue to accessibility. 

It is perfectly possible for Redbridge i to have done what they have done, and for it to be &lt;em&gt;accessible&lt;/em&gt;. Indeed, it is my hope that they will read this, fix the accessibility problems and then truly show people what can be done (although, like some point out, others might not &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to take this approach).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John,<br />
I don&#8217;t think the involvement/personalisation should be seen as a <em>trade-off</em> against accessibility. Whatever you think of the ability to customise (and I like it, particularly the postcode related stuff), this is a separate issue to accessibility. </p>
<p>It is perfectly possible for Redbridge i to have done what they have done, and for it to be <em>accessible</em>. Indeed, it is my hope that they will read this, fix the accessibility problems and then truly show people what can be done (although, like some point out, others might not <em>want</em> to take this approach).</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-59690</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think personalisation on a council website is great as long as the website does it for you.

So, once you&#039;ve registered on the site for whatever reason (making a payment, applying for something), the homepage uses this info to customise the homepage appropriately e.g a map which is zoomed to your town, local news, pages you&#039;ve recently visited, links to your nearest library/waste reycling centre/police station etc...

I agree that hardly anyone will want to actively choose homepage content and drag boxes about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think personalisation on a council website is great as long as the website does it for you.</p>
<p>So, once you&#8217;ve registered on the site for whatever reason (making a payment, applying for something), the homepage uses this info to customise the homepage appropriately e.g a map which is zoomed to your town, local news, pages you&#8217;ve recently visited, links to your nearest library/waste reycling centre/police station etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree that hardly anyone will want to actively choose homepage content and drag boxes about.</p>
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		<title>By: John Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-59684</link>
		<dc:creator>John Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some excellent points made here.  Not having a CMS does arguably give you greater control over accessibility, if you know what you are doing.  However, you do then struggle to get engagement from the whole organisation, if the ability to create and edit pages is not divolved.

The other important question is, does the personalisation etc actually allow the council to operate more efficiently and effectively?  Is the trade off on accessibility worth it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some excellent points made here.  Not having a CMS does arguably give you greater control over accessibility, if you know what you are doing.  However, you do then struggle to get engagement from the whole organisation, if the ability to create and edit pages is not divolved.</p>
<p>The other important question is, does the personalisation etc actually allow the council to operate more efficiently and effectively?  Is the trade off on accessibility worth it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emma, the rules are the same for private sector, they&#039;re probably just not as aware for the most part. 

The point about the use of CMS is long overdue. Councils are spending a fortune on systems and then end up doing all the work in the web team because they don&#039;t have time to check the work of 200 authors or train them effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma, the rules are the same for private sector, they&#8217;re probably just not as aware for the most part. </p>
<p>The point about the use of CMS is long overdue. Councils are spending a fortune on systems and then end up doing all the work in the web team because they don&#8217;t have time to check the work of 200 authors or train them effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: David Singer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Google all the time and can&#039;t see anything to gain in &#039;personalising&#039; it ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Google all the time and can&#8217;t see anything to gain in &#8216;personalising&#8217; it &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200910/redbridge-is-not-all-is-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-59650</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it&#039;s a good thing councils are giving people the option to personalise their websites rather than assuming people won&#039;t use it? 

As for SiteMorse, it is obvious that it&#039;s only purpose is to scare councils into believing their websites are non-compliant in order to grab a hefty subscription fee off them. 

I&#039;m all for accessibility, but I think the restrictions of a CMS and all these government regulations are hindering the development of council websites. Surely we should be looking toward the private sector for web design and development, as they are the ones that are not plagued by all these incessant rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it&#8217;s a good thing councils are giving people the option to personalise their websites rather than assuming people won&#8217;t use it? </p>
<p>As for SiteMorse, it is obvious that it&#8217;s only purpose is to scare councils into believing their websites are non-compliant in order to grab a hefty subscription fee off them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for accessibility, but I think the restrictions of a CMS and all these government regulations are hindering the development of council websites. Surely we should be looking toward the private sector for web design and development, as they are the ones that are not plagued by all these incessant rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Engagement conference &#171; Julia&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Engagement conference &#171; Julia&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like the idea of being able to define your neighbourhood, and then get really local news although Jack Pickard has questions about their accessibility [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like the idea of being able to define your neighbourhood, and then get really local news although Jack Pickard has questions about their accessibility [...]</p>
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