Comments on: Accessibility vs the Free Market: Attitudes to Target http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/ standards, accessibility, and ranting and general stuff by the web chemist Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:50:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Matt Machell http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20915 Matt Machell Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:44:43 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20915 Great article, Jack! Great article, Jack!

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By: Andy Mabbett http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20882 Andy Mabbett Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:26:09 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20882 Not quite a record-producer, but Evelyn Glennie is a deaf composer and musician of some renown. Oddly, her website: <a href="http://www.evelyn.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">www.evelyn.co.uk/</a> has appalling accessibility. Not quite a record-producer, but Evelyn Glennie is a deaf composer and musician of some renown. Oddly, her website: http://www.evelyn.co.uk/ has appalling accessibility.

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By: Mike Cherim http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20868 Mike Cherim Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:59:44 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20868 Thanks Jack. Good call, I wouldn't name names either --- not unless they said some intelligent ;) Thanks Jack. Good call, I wouldn’t name names either — not unless they said some intelligent ;)

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By: JackP http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20843 JackP Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:38:46 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20843 @Mike - they're all genuine quotes (from sitepoint). I didn't give the person or the references as I wasn't really giving a right-of-reply in the same way that the forum posts did so I thought it would be unfair to name people. @Mike - they’re all genuine quotes (from sitepoint). I didn’t give the person or the references as I wasn’t really giving a right-of-reply in the same way that the forum posts did so I thought it would be unfair to name people.

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By: The Goldfish http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20831 The Goldfish Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:17:42 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20831 The thing that strikes me as someone who knows very little about such things is that ALT text, page headings and so on are all aids to the Search Engines. Everything that I can think of which makes a page more accessible to people with visual impairments simultaneously helps raise those all important Google rankings, as well as generally contributing to navigability for everyone. It's really difficult to see this as a costly accommodation. At least none of the comments included, "But don't they have Guide Dogs for that kind of thing?" Great post. :-) The thing that strikes me as someone who knows very little about such things is that ALT text, page headings and so on are all aids to the Search Engines. Everything that I can think of which makes a page more accessible to people with visual impairments simultaneously helps raise those all important Google rankings, as well as generally contributing to navigability for everyone. It’s really difficult to see this as a costly accommodation.

At least none of the comments included, “But don’t they have Guide Dogs for that kind of thing?”

Great post. :-)

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By: Mike Cherim http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20825 Mike Cherim Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:12:16 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20825 @Jack: <blockquote cite="http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/"> I'll ignore the idea of the US "not intervening" being rather bizarre in itself --- Vietnam, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, anyone? </blockquote> Hehe, that's funny. Just watch the changes that occur once it's discovered that blind people are a rich source of fossil fuels. Excellent article. Reading the lead-in I thought it was going to be preachy and it wasn't. It's a well-reasoned, well-written article. Question: Are the quotes of the ignorant real or are they paraphrasing of random bits of real remarks? I know the ignorance is very real, but I don't know if the quotes are real quotes. @Joe: <blockquote cite="http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20800"> You mean that my trip to see the Dali Lama was wasted? Damn. </blockquote> Nah, I'm there this week (I'm using his Wi-Fi connection right now). He says hello and has added that he rather enjoyed your visit. Next time he wants you to bring your violin, though. Or more beer. @Jack:

I’ll ignore the idea of the US “not intervening” being rather bizarre in itself — Vietnam, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, anyone?

Hehe, that’s funny. Just watch the changes that occur once it’s discovered that blind people are a rich source of fossil fuels.

Excellent article. Reading the lead-in I thought it was going to be preachy and it wasn’t. It’s a well-reasoned, well-written article.

Question: Are the quotes of the ignorant real or are they paraphrasing of random bits of real remarks? I know the ignorance is very real, but I don’t know if the quotes are real quotes.

@Joe:

You mean that my trip to see the Dali Lama was wasted? Damn.

Nah, I’m there this week (I’m using his Wi-Fi connection right now). He says hello and has added that he rather enjoyed your visit. Next time he wants you to bring your violin, though. Or more beer.

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By: Joe Dolson http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20800 Joe Dolson Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:19:23 +0000 http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200711/accessibility-vs-the-free-market-attitudes-to-target/#comment-20800 You mean that my trip to see the Dali Lama was <em>wasted</em>? Damn. Great article, Jack --- you really tracked down some of the anti-gems of the comment world on this issue. You mean that my trip to see the Dali Lama was wasted? Damn.

Great article, Jack — you really tracked down some of the anti-gems of the comment world on this issue.

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